24 Elders Future? Rapture To Replace 1/3 Angels?
Jan 10, 2006 · Posted in Emails, RaptureTom asked:
It seems when John saw the 24 elders wasn’t there a mention of a vision? So would it be possible the end time visions seen by John the 24 elders, the saints under the throne were visions of future events as the book of revelation is written? This has not yet come to pass. But our Lord is soon in coming all the prophecies are up!!!!!! It won’t be long. But what I have read will come to pass heaven is ready to receive us. One third of the heavens were swept out with Satan. Are we the one third to take their place? Only wondering…..
By all indication, the 24 elders were already in heaven in the present back when John saw his vision of the throne room. Just as the Messiah was already ascended and in his place there. If we take these to be men as the evidence points to, then this makes more sense then saying this in some yet future resurreciton/rapture of only 24 people. I still think the best explanation is that these 24 were “raptured” at the time Jesus was to fulfill the Wave Sheaf prophetic rehearsal of Leviticus 23.
If I understand your other question correctly you are asking if we are going to heaven to replace the 1/3 of the angels who Satan marshalled in rebellion against God (Revelation 12)? The purpose for us going to heaven is not because it needs population but because we are not “appointed to wrath” (1The 5:9). Jesus indicated that the rapture would be right before God’s seven bowls of wrath fell. And by the way, the angels are still in heaven today because as Job and Revelation 12 indicate, their casting down with Satan after being banned from heaven is not until the start of the Great Tribulation of his wrath (the reason for the “woe, woe, woe” mentioned in Revelation 12 is the same as the three woes of the 5th, 6th, and 7th trumpets).
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I think this might answer some of your guyses questions baout who the 24 elders are etc… its a good read, read it and let me know what you think.
http://users.aristotle.net/~bhuie/divine_council.htm
There are other good articles on there, not sure where the auther of this site stands on what this author has to say but the divine council thing i found very interesting and there is much scriptural reference to what he has to say, he also has some prophecy interpretations on there, that are very solid also.
I definitely see a divine counsel from Genesis 1′s “Let us make man in our image” and throughout the Bible. But it does not help explain who the 24 elders are because these are clearly men who were redeemed and will rule, not spiritual creatures from the beginning of time who never are appointed to rule, but will be judged by men (1Cor 6:3).
Ah, i see, well i was just tossing it out there incase it helped anyone i guess it doesn’t really help us solve that problem lol. Oh well we will find out eventualy when we see Christ
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