Comments on: Can We Take “The LORD’s Name In Vain” Today? http://timmchyde.com/gods-name-in-vain/ Revolutionary Explanations for Bible Prophecy, Mysteries and Difficult Verses Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:41:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Glenn http://timmchyde.com/gods-name-in-vain/comment-page-1/#comment-11204 Glenn Wed, 16 Jun 2010 18:44:21 +0000 http://timmchyde.com/?p=180#comment-11204 Hi Tim, Just a couple of thoughts for you (& maybe others) to ponder on taking the Lords name in vain. 1) You are probably right in saying people are not LITERALLY taking the Lords name in vain when they say" Jesus Christ" or similar, but the INTENT,be it conscious or sub-conscious is there, to curse the true Lord. 2) Why do i never hear "Buddha"or "Krisna" or "Mohammed" etc used in the same way, kinda funny that..... makes me think the path we walks got something unique!! Kind Regards, Glenn. Hi Tim,
Just a couple of thoughts for you (& maybe others) to ponder on taking the Lords name in vain.

1) You are probably right in saying people are not LITERALLY taking the Lords name in vain when they say” Jesus Christ” or similar, but the INTENT,be it conscious or sub-conscious is there, to curse the true Lord.

2) Why do i never hear “Buddha”or “Krisna” or “Mohammed” etc used in the same way, kinda funny that….. makes me think the path we walks got something unique!!

Kind Regards,
Glenn.

]]> By: Robert Larson http://timmchyde.com/gods-name-in-vain/comment-page-1/#comment-11164 Robert Larson Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:11:05 +0000 http://timmchyde.com/?p=180#comment-11164 I hear what you say Tim and over all it is logical to what is written but I always feel bad when I do this and when I hear others doing the same I feel bad about it also. I don't know it just seems like there is a connection even though what you indicate makes sense. I was in the military and the people I was with - well it was like second nature to swear in every other word we said. It's been hard ,and still is, to clean up my vocabulary. If people feel bad about saying it. Then do yourself a favor people and don't say it. And those that still do. Ok then if there is a problem with it, they will be judged for it by YHWH in the end. It would be those peoples problem. Just my 2-cents worth. I hear what you say Tim and over all it is logical to what is written but I always feel bad when I do this and when I hear others doing the same I feel bad about it also. I don’t know it just seems like there is a connection even though what you indicate makes sense. I was in the military and the people I was with – well it was like second nature to swear in every other word we said. It’s been hard ,and still is, to clean up my vocabulary. If people feel bad about saying it. Then do yourself a favor people and don’t say it. And those that still do. Ok then if there is a problem with it, they will be judged for it by YHWH in the end. It would be those peoples problem. Just my 2-cents worth.

]]> By: Tim McHyde http://timmchyde.com/gods-name-in-vain/comment-page-1/#comment-11085 Tim McHyde Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:08:07 +0000 http://timmchyde.com/?p=180#comment-11085 The Third Commandment refers to the specific personal name of God, YHWH. "God" as in "God damn it" is not God's name. "Jesus" as in "Jesus Christ!" is not the Messiah's name either...if there was a command against using his name in vain, which there is not. Really you are "adding to the Torah" by your prohibition. This is a sin that Jesus charged the Pharisees with, putting their fence around the Torah through the addition of takanot like not carrying a mat on sabbath, etc. The Third Commandment refers to the specific personal name of God, YHWH. “God” as in “God damn it” is not God’s name. “Jesus” as in “Jesus Christ!” is not the Messiah’s name either…if there was a command against using his name in vain, which there is not. Really you are “adding to the Torah” by your prohibition. This is a sin that Jesus charged the Pharisees with, putting their fence around the Torah through the addition of takanot like not carrying a mat on sabbath, etc.

]]> By: Roachcannon http://timmchyde.com/gods-name-in-vain/comment-page-1/#comment-11084 Roachcannon Sat, 20 Feb 2010 03:58:29 +0000 http://timmchyde.com/?p=180#comment-11084 What a load of BS. God's name is meant to be worshiped and praised, the only time you can speak of God or Jesus name is in praise or worship or if your talking about him, example Jesus is perfect, God is awesome. Saying G-d DAM or dammit or Jesus Christ or for Christ sake or for G-d sake is a sin a terrible sin and it is the broken 3'rd commandment period. All this bullshit about interpetations and meanings is nothing more than demonic garbage. Don't take God's name in vein or you'll have to pay a price you can't afford, don't fall for this liberal garbage on here and don't be seduced by liars. What a load of BS. God’s name is meant to be worshiped and praised, the only time you can speak of God or Jesus name is in praise or worship or if your talking about him, example Jesus is perfect, God is awesome. Saying G-d DAM or dammit or Jesus Christ or for Christ sake or for G-d sake is a sin a terrible sin and it is the broken 3′rd commandment period. All this bullshit about interpetations and meanings is nothing more than demonic garbage. Don’t take God’s name in vein or you’ll have to pay a price you can’t afford, don’t fall for this liberal garbage on here and don’t be seduced by liars.

]]> By: Angelique http://timmchyde.com/gods-name-in-vain/comment-page-1/#comment-10995 Angelique Fri, 25 Dec 2009 21:34:02 +0000 http://timmchyde.com/?p=180#comment-10995 Agreed, every text is open to interpretation, and I have always prayed over that text to mean as the father and I are one, being one in purpose, just as we can become one in purpose with them, yet we can never be God's. I agree as well that christianity and other religions at large over spiritualizes ALOT and is very uninformed "intellectually" not having a mind in Christ towards the scriptures, studying to show themselves approved by God rightly dividing the word of truth. The self proclaimed christians do want to feel they belong to something and so they would rather go with the majority of what is being said from the pulpits, rather than praying and searching and seeking God in it so they can further grow into the knowledge of his truth. If they did that, they may be misunderstood by the majority and left out or alone, which can me uncomfortable for most. So I'd say its safer for them to spiritualize most things and go along with what they are taught in the scriptures. What I meant by being so intellectually minded is that we get so wrapped up in our egos in acquiring the knowledge because we study so much, that we can ignore the spirit of God and his heart and spirit in all of our getting understanding. Leaning on our own understanding instead of his. Thats all I meant. (-: Yes we do need to be like the bereans and to keep studying and praying and pressing for our hearts to be upright before the Lord. The times we are in there's so much knoweldge out there and yet we can have good intentions and if we are not careful we can be over taken by the knowledge and thus fall into what it says in Daniel, knoweledge is everyly increasing yet no one coming to the truth. I think in the most part we are one in the basis of our approach to reading the word and through the study of the word and the christian religion at large. And speaking for myself I just want to grow in him and have so much more to learn and be obedient too. (-: But yet the name of jesus is what transformed my life outside of relgious affairs, and I used his name to cast demons and the works of darkness that at one time had a hold on my life and those around me. In that the name of Jesus has much power and some would say that is spiritualize, yet it was very real and powerful to me when using Jesus instead of Yeshua, from having no tools to study things out at the time, but just the written old english king james bible and the working of the holy spirit. Thus I was saying his language, spirit and purpose can transcend through our language barriers so that his purpose prevails in our lives, when we truly have a heart that seeks after him. Hope all of that clears up my misunderstandings. Peace and many blessings to you. (-: Agreed, every text is open to interpretation, and I have always prayed over that text to mean as the father and I are one, being one in purpose, just as we can become one in purpose with them, yet we can never be God’s. I agree as well that christianity and other religions at large over spiritualizes ALOT and is very uninformed “intellectually” not having a mind in Christ towards the scriptures, studying to show themselves approved by God rightly dividing the word of truth. The self proclaimed christians do want to feel they belong to something and so they would rather go with the majority of what is being said from the pulpits, rather than praying and searching and seeking God in it so they can further grow into the knowledge of his truth. If they did that, they may be misunderstood by the majority and left out or alone, which can me uncomfortable for most. So I’d say its safer for them to spiritualize most things and go along with what they are taught in the scriptures.

What I meant by being so intellectually minded is that we get so wrapped up in our egos in acquiring the knowledge because we study so much, that we can ignore the spirit of God and his heart and spirit in all of our getting understanding. Leaning on our own understanding instead of his. Thats all I meant. (-:

Yes we do need to be like the bereans and to keep studying and praying and pressing for our hearts to be upright before the Lord. The times we are in there’s so much knoweldge out there and yet we can have good intentions and if we are not careful we can be over taken by the knowledge and thus fall into what it says in Daniel, knoweledge is everyly increasing yet no one coming to the truth. I think in the most part we are one in the basis of our approach to reading the word and through the study of the word and the christian religion at large. And speaking for myself I just want to grow in him and have so much more to learn and be obedient too. (-: But yet the name of jesus is what transformed my life outside of relgious affairs, and I used his name to cast demons and the works of darkness that at one time had a hold on my life and those around me. In that the name of Jesus has much power and some would say that is spiritualize, yet it was very real and powerful to me when using Jesus instead of Yeshua, from having no tools to study things out at the time, but just the written old english king james bible and the working of the holy spirit. Thus I was saying his language, spirit and purpose can transcend through our language barriers so that his purpose prevails in our lives, when we truly have a heart that seeks after him. Hope all of that clears up my misunderstandings. Peace and many blessings to you. (-:

]]> By: Tim McHyde http://timmchyde.com/gods-name-in-vain/comment-page-1/#comment-10994 Tim McHyde Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:33:31 +0000 http://timmchyde.com/?p=180#comment-10994 Me too, but the plain text is open to interpretation. Does it mean two are one God or two are in one purpose. By exploring the full context of John we can confirm it is the latter, not the former or it creates a problem of everyone being God. Yes, Jesus is not his real name, but Yeshua is. You don't translate Yeshua, you transliterate it. But the transliteration that we have in Jesus is full of deficiencies as this article explains http://jesusisajew.org/YESHUA.php. Nevertheless, God answers prayers according to the intent of our heart not the accuracy of our nomenclature. So "Jesus is just all right with me" =) Maybe we are one, we can't be sure yet since all we know now is we are not understanding each other. For example, I don't know what you mean about intellectualizing it. Doctrine must be built from Scripture, properly read in context. If a spirit leads us into truth, we must still confirm the teaching does not break Scripture which is why the Bereans were right to search the Scriptures daily to see if even what the Apostle Paul said was so (Acts 17:11)! So far what I have seen in Christianity's approach to Scripture can be characterized as underintellectualizing and overspiritualizing :(. Me too, but the plain text is open to interpretation. Does it mean two are one God or two are in one purpose. By exploring the full context of John we can confirm it is the latter, not the former or it creates a problem of everyone being God.

Yes, Jesus is not his real name, but Yeshua is. You don’t translate Yeshua, you transliterate it. But the transliteration that we have in Jesus is full of deficiencies as this article explains http://jesusisajew.org/YESHUA.php. Nevertheless, God answers prayers according to the intent of our heart not the accuracy of our nomenclature. So “Jesus is just all right with me” =)

Maybe we are one, we can’t be sure yet since all we know now is we are not understanding each other. For example, I don’t know what you mean about intellectualizing it. Doctrine must be built from Scripture, properly read in context. If a spirit leads us into truth, we must still confirm the teaching does not break Scripture which is why the Bereans were right to search the Scriptures daily to see if even what the Apostle Paul said was so (Acts 17:11)! So far what I have seen in Christianity’s approach to Scripture can be characterized as underintellectualizing and overspiritualizing :( .

]]> By: Angelique http://timmchyde.com/gods-name-in-vain/comment-page-1/#comment-10993 Angelique Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:13:13 +0000 http://timmchyde.com/?p=180#comment-10993 I am looking at the plain text not it could be this or that, I understand it goes into us being one in them as well and they were of course united in purpose. But I am asking by the use of Jesus' name as you stated is not really his name because of it going from Hebrew to Greek to old English translations. Forget it guess we are not one in this as well. We can sum it up to you explanation of the mystery of the disunity. Lets just be careful to not be so intellectually minded in the things of the word and forget about the spirit that leads and guide us into all truth. I am looking at the plain text not it could be this or that, I understand it goes into us being one in them as well and they were of course united in purpose. But I am asking by the use of Jesus’ name as you stated is not really his name because of it going from Hebrew to Greek to old English translations. Forget it guess we are not one in this as well. We can sum it up to you explanation of the mystery of the disunity. Lets just be careful to not be so intellectually minded in the things of the word and forget about the spirit that leads and guide us into all truth.

]]> By: Tim McHyde http://timmchyde.com/gods-name-in-vain/comment-page-1/#comment-10992 Tim McHyde Fri, 25 Dec 2009 19:20:00 +0000 http://timmchyde.com/?p=180#comment-10992 Whoops: "The father and I are one" does not have to mean corporally as you interpret it. It can also mean united in purpose. This is confirmed if you keep reading past that statement in John 10 until John 17 where Jesus expresses the same unity and wishes the same oneness for us believers and God together: John 17:21 (HCSB) May they all be one, as You, Father, are in Me and I am in You. May they also be one in Us, so the world may believe You sent Me. Read that carefully. So either we are all God together, or we are all united in purpose. I don't understand the rest of your message. If you think I have something against the name Jesus, I do not. Simply put, the Third Command has nothing to do with name of anyone but the covenant name of God, YHWH which is named in the very commandment itself: Exodus 20:7 Do not misuse the name of <strong>YeHoVaH</strong> your God, because YeHoVaH will not leave anyone unpunished who misuses His name. Whoops: “The father and I are one” does not have to mean corporally as you interpret it. It can also mean united in purpose. This is confirmed if you keep reading past that statement in John 10 until John 17 where Jesus expresses the same unity and wishes the same oneness for us believers and God together:

John 17:21 (HCSB) May they all be one, as You, Father, are in Me and I am in You. May they also be one in Us, so the world may believe You sent Me.

Read that carefully. So either we are all God together, or we are all united in purpose.

I don’t understand the rest of your message. If you think I have something against the name Jesus, I do not. Simply put, the Third Command has nothing to do with name of anyone but the covenant name of God, YHWH which is named in the very commandment itself: Exodus 20:7 Do not misuse the name of
YeHoVaH your God, because YeHoVaH will not leave anyone unpunished who misuses His name.

]]> By: Angelique http://timmchyde.com/gods-name-in-vain/comment-page-1/#comment-10991 Angelique Fri, 25 Dec 2009 16:44:37 +0000 http://timmchyde.com/?p=180#comment-10991 Hi Tim, So you did not answer Chanelle, in her name above all names Jesus? You say Jesus is different than the father, stating john 20, but yet Jesus says the father and I are one? So in christian belief we believe you can not separate them, they are all the god head of the almighty, the one true God. So if I have casted out demons at the name of Jesus, yet his name is Yeshua, how did the demons flee? And that I experienced for myself. If jesus (Yeshua) is the above all names where does this fall into using Jesus Christ in vain is not breaking the commandment? Although I believe there is much that is a mystery left for the dispensation of God's will until the fullness of times, this core fundamental belief in the name of Jesus I have used and seen its power! To take that away is like the saying of building my house on the sand, the name of Jesus is my rock in my foundation. The cheif corner stone in my spiritual beliefs. Wouldn't you think the language of God transcends through all language barriers? He does say he will restore a pure language. (Zephaniah) For then will I turn [NKJV: restore] to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the LORD, to serve him with one consent. I do appreciate your affinity to searching and learning the words and history of the bible. In Christ's love, Angelique Hi Tim, So you did not answer Chanelle, in her name above all names Jesus? You say Jesus is different than the father, stating john 20, but yet Jesus says the father and I are one? So in christian belief we believe you can not separate them, they are all the god head of the almighty, the one true God. So if I have casted out demons at the name of Jesus, yet his name is Yeshua, how did the demons flee? And that I experienced for myself. If jesus (Yeshua) is the above all names where does this fall into using Jesus Christ in vain is not breaking the commandment? Although I believe there is much that is a mystery left for the dispensation of God’s will until the fullness of times, this core fundamental belief in the name of Jesus I have used and seen its power! To take that away is like the saying of building my house on the sand, the name of Jesus is my rock in my foundation. The cheif corner stone in my spiritual beliefs. Wouldn’t you think the language of God transcends through all language barriers? He does say he will restore a pure language. (Zephaniah) For then will I turn [NKJV: restore] to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the LORD, to serve him with one consent.
I do appreciate your affinity to searching and learning the words and history of the bible. In Christ’s love, Angelique

]]> By: Tim McHyde http://timmchyde.com/gods-name-in-vain/comment-page-1/#comment-10977 Tim McHyde Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:35:40 +0000 http://timmchyde.com/?p=180#comment-10977 I'm sorry but those words you list are titles and euphemisms and not translations of God's name. You do not translate personal names into other languages. The name of God comes from the verb to be. If you were to translate it would be something like he was, he is, he will be. Definitely not LORD, GOD, JESUS CHRIST or what not. Jesus Christ is diffferent from YHWH who he called his father and our father and his god and our (to Thomas in John 20:17). I’m sorry but those words you list are titles and euphemisms and not translations of God’s name. You do not translate personal names into other languages. The name of God comes from the verb to be. If you were to translate it would be something like he was, he is, he will be. Definitely not LORD, GOD, JESUS CHRIST or what not. Jesus Christ is diffferent from YHWH who he called his father and our father and his god and our (to Thomas in John 20:17).

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