Comments on: Psalm 83: When? http://timmchyde.com/psalm-83/ Revolutionary Explanations for Bible Prophecy, Mysteries and Difficult Verses Fri, 03 Sep 2010 20:54:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Tim McHyde http://timmchyde.com/psalm-83/comment-page-1/#comment-80 Tim McHyde Fri, 14 Apr 2006 13:59:34 +0000 http://timmchyde.com/psalm-83/#comment-80 "No divine intervention before the second advent" is a surprising claim to make when you just consider the history of ancient and modern Israel's wars. God has often driven away Israel's enemies through blessing Israel's armies, usually without doing something obviously supernatural to all observers (although there may be exceptions like when the angel came and slew the Assyrian army of Sennacherib for Hezekiah). This is what you notice if you read the books of Samuel and the Kings. When God blessed them their enemies were defeated, even when greatly outnumbering them, which qualifies to me as a divine intervention in a war like Psalm 83 calls for. And this still happens today if you consider how Israel won the Six Day War and all their modern wars. It is said that no nation can learn and try to emulate Israel's style of winning its wars. It's impossible to copy because unlikely how they pulled it off each time. So Asaph praying for God to make Israel's enemies lose does not require that it be something clearly supernatural to everyone as you think a "divine intervention" must be. Plus you will never find a statement in the Bible supporting this idea that God does not intervene in man's history. He must do so, for example, simply for his people to be saved from the Beast. “No divine intervention before the second advent” is a surprising claim to make when you just consider the history of ancient and modern Israel’s wars. God has often driven away Israel’s enemies through blessing Israel’s armies, usually without doing something obviously supernatural to all observers (although there may be exceptions like when the angel came and slew the Assyrian army of Sennacherib for Hezekiah). This is what you notice if you read the books of Samuel and the Kings. When God blessed them their enemies were defeated, even when greatly outnumbering them, which qualifies to me as a divine intervention in a war like Psalm 83 calls for.

And this still happens today if you consider how Israel won the Six Day War and all their modern wars. It is said that no nation can learn and try to emulate Israel’s style of winning its wars. It’s impossible to copy because unlikely how they pulled it off each time.

So Asaph praying for God to make Israel’s enemies lose does not require that it be something clearly supernatural to everyone as you think a “divine intervention” must be. Plus you will never find a statement in the Bible supporting this idea that God does not intervene in man’s history. He must do so, for example, simply for his people to be saved from the Beast.

]]> By: neil http://timmchyde.com/psalm-83/comment-page-1/#comment-78 neil Fri, 14 Apr 2006 13:25:22 +0000 http://timmchyde.com/psalm-83/#comment-78 The bible says that it is God that drives the enemies away in psalm 83, not israel. That means it cannot be a pre-trib event as there is no divine intervention until the second advent Psa 83:13 My God, make them like tumbleweed; like chaff before the wind. Psa 83:14 As the fire that burns the forest, as the flame that sets the mountains on fire, Psa 83:15 so pursue them with your tempest, and terrify them with your storm. Psa 83:9 (83:10) Do Thou unto them as unto Midian; as to Sisera, as to Jabin, at the brook Kishon; Jdg 4:23 So God subdued on that day Jabin the king of Canaan before the children of Israel. The bible says that it is God that drives the enemies away in psalm 83, not israel. That means it cannot be a pre-trib event as there is no divine intervention until the second advent

Psa 83:13 My God, make them like tumbleweed; like chaff before the wind.
Psa 83:14 As the fire that burns the forest, as the flame that sets the mountains on fire,
Psa 83:15 so pursue them with your tempest, and terrify them with your storm.

Psa 83:9 (83:10) Do Thou unto them as unto Midian; as to Sisera, as to Jabin, at the brook Kishon;

Jdg 4:23 So God subdued on that day Jabin the king of Canaan before the children of Israel.

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